le 3-Juin-1997 dans PHOTO-3D Digest 2091, Peter Van Zuijlekom (pzuijlekom@titan.info-products.nl) décrit les cartes LESTRADE et BRUGUIERE:
Lestrade cards
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Made in France, marque deposee, Vic-en-Bigorre.
Measurements : 10 x 17.4 cm (older ones)
10 x 19 cm (newer ones)
Framesize : 12 x 15 mm
Perforations : 10 (double)
# of pictures : 10 pairs
Film used : Kodachrome
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Bruguiere Stereoclic viewer
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Unknown to me. Never seen one.
I've about 350 books on the subject of camera's,
photography, 3D and the like. No trace of the two
abovementioned viewers. Price unknown (to me)
Bruguiere cards
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Made in France, Brevet S.G.D.G. Stereofilms Bruguiere,
Paris
Measurements : 9 x 17 cm
Framesize : 12 x 12 mm
Perforations : 11 (single)
# of pictures : 8 pairs
Film used : ?
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Peter van Zuijlekom
GouDDDa
The Netherlands
Ces informations sont complétés par John Bradley (JB3D@compuserve.com) les jours suivants dans PHOTO_3D Digest 2092 et 2096 et 2098 :
My information is sketchy , and I too have
wondered about getting people to pool
their data on these, so well done Peter
for getting this started!
I will keep this as brief as possible.
I believe Bruguiere was the earliest
operator.they produced glass slides in
45x107 format from about the 30's.
These were taken with the Jules Richard
Verascope camera. I have slides in
black and white and sepia and white.
At a later stage they converted the format to
celluloid slides. The images were still in
45x107 format and the scenes remained
unchanged. The first style of celluloid slides
were two part , with the flimsy plastic slide
encased in a tranparent protective sleeve
rather like a sleeve for a realist format slide.
The second celluloid style was one piece,
with the image on a stiffer strip of plastic and
no sleeve. Both glass and celluloid versions
were sold in small boxes of twelve views. I
have a list from the celluloid era which lists
500 different sets. The majority are views of
French locations , but a few of other European
locations and N. Africa. The standard viewer
for this format was a simple cloth covered
wood (later cardboard) box viewer with
push pull focussing.
After this they turned to colour slides in 7
sprocket (European)format. These came
only six to a box. The list I have of these
shows them all to be of France , with a
few "children's" sets. I havn't ever found
the viewer for this style, although of course
you can view them in any European format
viewer.
They next turned to what Americans
would probably term "Tru-Vue card style".
I think this must have been in the late 50's
or early 60's.This was a popular format in
Europe with several firms producing multiple
view cards and viewers. Best known were
Lestrade (more of them later), ColourRelief,
Romo,Marte, StereoColour.
Brugiere lists show several hundred sets.
Again they were principally French locations,
with some coverage of the rest of Europe
including England, and some depicted
naughty topless cabaret shows.
The cards were 8 views to card , and viewers
came in a variety of versions including a
focussing model.
Contrary to what Peter says in his posting ,
at some point Brugiere did produce some
Viewmaster format reels. Not many I admit,and
they are very scarce , but I do have one in
my collection.
I haven't noticed the list being swamped
with more information so I'll jot down
what little I know about the Lestrade
operation.
As far as I can tell Lestrade was a later
entrant in to the field. I am not aware of
any 45x107 activity like Bruguiere , and
their first material seems to be card format
viewers and views. =
As Peter notes the company is associated
with Lourdes , the religious site in Southern
France. The company HQ is nearby in Vic
en Bigorre , and is still active. =
Lestrade catalogues from the 60's and 70's
list an enormous choice of viewcards-
probably a thousand or so.Like most other
producers of the time they issued several
risque sets incliding the "Vues Plastique"
series.
Viewers came in a variety of styles , and
there was a monoprojector manufactured too. =
In addition
Lestrade produce a series of mono 35mm
slides ("Diapositives"), which are mostly
flat versions of their 3D coverage.
I regularly
used to order from Lestrade , but it was always
a painfully slow business. They only appear to
correspond in French , and one had to write
placing an order ; they then responded
saying what was available, and enclosing
an invoice; when you paid this (in Francs
of course) they sent the goods.
Much of what one ordered was not in stock,
largely I think because they never actually
updated their catalogue , just reprinted it,
and many of the cards were sold out.
Nearly all the views were photographed in
the 50's or 60's , and they just dug in to the
old stock when you ordered. I think the
turnover on most of the list was so small
it was not worth their while reprinting when
they ran out. I bought all the English views,
which were a wonderful timewarp- old
cars and British Bobbies in old fashioned
uniforms. If I have a complaint about their
coverage it is that they seemed to avoid
including too may shots of people-
mostly rather sterile scenic views.
At some point in the 1960's Lestrade
took over Bruguiere. Harry zur Kleinsmeid
tells tells me this was a move intended
simply to wipe out the opposition.
In recent years I have found it impossible to
get a response from Lestrade- orders just go
unnotiiced.
On the positive side they now produce a fine
set of stereoviews of Disneyland Paris, sold
only on site(there will be something about this
in a future edition of Dalia's "Inside 3D"). A
recent posting also reported a similar set
they produce for "Futuroscope".
In Paris I found a few cards and sets still on
sale in tourist shops recently.
Lestrade catalogues
1964-1560 cards
1967-1560 cards
1969-2080 cards
1970-2080 cards
1990-3120 cards
Best wishes,
John Bradley
JB3D@Compuserve.com
Le 17-Juin-1997 j'avais retrouvé le collégue qui savait trouver Lestrade et j'écrivais a la liste PHOTO-3D Digest 2125
With difficultys I have found :
Lestrade is still working but they are now
dispensed by :
M S M
17 rue Sabathe
65500 Vic en Bigorre
tel 33 (0)5 62 31 68 01
fax 33 (0)5 62 31 68 08
At this address they are busy and prefer Fax or
letters than call.
In a short call they said me :
We have no catalogue. All old references are not
in stock, make your demand and we send what is available.
References of view outside France are not available.
We make new stereocard, but few. Only the most visited
places in France.
We have only one Stereoviewer :
Stereoscope Simplex 37 FF
and a stereocard cost 23 FF
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